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Friday, February 17, 2012

Goth to Emo

Though at odds the Goth and Emo Cultures are synchronous. Similar to an observation about the older generation in dark business suits evaluating the younger generation in letterman jackets fashion changes with each generation. There are several reasons for this occurrence.

Emos are Goths. This is not the first time Goths try to redefine themselves as something different with a new title. There are a slew of names ranging from Dark Wave, Post Punk and International Rock. Writers also engage in activity. Though everyone knows a combination of Fantasy, Science Fiction and Horror is a Comic Book we bravely search for another title that does not include cartoons even though Comic Books stem from novels combining these elements in the genre of fiction with subcategories to clarify content.

These variations throw everyone into chaos. Thinking about the broader portion of Goth Society, most people exhibit sensitive traits. Sensitive does not mean sympathetic or empathetic. Emotional bonds describe feeling. Sensitive is system of preference through sensory observations. Cleaning the desk before work, tracking down a chilling breeze or exaggerating slight difference in clothing combinations are sensitive activities.

As a sensitive group of people, though my tests reveal I chose intuitive responses almost one hundred percent of the time, I exhibit several sensitive traits every day. This higher quality of sensing the world at a critical level creates separations into categories anytime there is any observable change. Under this scrutiny everyone is human not Goth or any group either in particular even though several people find a commonality.

Thinking about promotion of individuality and reverence for all people noticeably sensitive reactions are being overridden by thinking traits. Usually sensitive need to organize everything to become functional and there is an inclination to demand personal space, yet when including various beliefs personal space becomes a lesser option in regard to other people's needs.

Other beliefs include being less rigid and a preference of compromise to gain happiness. This establishes an inclination to diminish comfort to gain companionship. Functionality is important to everyone. The Urban quality is bent towards sophistication and darker colors. This creates a polished, quaffed appearance which is a recognizable quality of Goths. Goths have many of the traditional values of society with an orientation towards personal and religious freedom. Most believe in love, intelligent design, structure and rights to happiness. This is how we look shady to outsiders in arenas of imbibing and questioning social standards, such as: waiting for marriage and "Birds of a feather flock together."

Goths are analytical in association to these issues. Approaching groups have confusion when asking Goths about stances on issues. The level of personal restrictiveness is higher than the assumption. Having sex in a mature, monogamous relationship equals some sexual relationships with people before finding the "right one." It does not equal sex with everyone.

These misunderstandings create conflict. A person wanting to protect individuality must protect their own individuality or be a victim of stereotypes. Many might want to go to other groups to find solace, yet it is Goths who empathize with ongoing mayhem and losing personal choices.

Some might wonder if I have life experiences. I had boyfriends, from a different group, for years. By the end he was disappointed that I was not a slut. They wanted a slut. Previous girlfriends were sluts. For a long time I thought this reaction was a product of vicious gossip. I pondered all my ex-boyfriends and soon to be ex-friends who would be so mean. It was not until later I realized that it was because of the media depiction of Goths. Truthfully the media portrays everyone as hopping between sexual partners. It is another outside group that is not acknowledging personal freedom. Someone having any sex before marriage is a slut. They do not know people of another group have a much higher expectation of what constitutes a slut. Premarital sex is normal. Whatever reason he judged me based on appearance.

Another level of empathy, coincidentally problems, relates to talking with other Goths. As this happens to me this happens to them. I hear through gossip someone thinks they are a vampire; they are an orphan, or they are a witch. I do not know if any of these rumors are true. I only know several people talk about them specifically. When ten or more people approach you with gossip about someone you do not know; it is fair to assume people talk to each other about this person. While empathizing with the person everyone gossips about, I also realize this activity appears hostile and they are pushing everyone away in search of answers.

These types of unique complications to the group make it so Goths are the best option for gaining support when conflict arises. An older title for everyone is probably available, yet the principle is to get better at trusting each and avoid making faulty connections to people who will always make unfair assumptions about Goths.

Emos are really Goths, ergo should get along. Perhaps the visual influence of animation glorifies a colorful streak, yet there are several social similarities. I know Goths, only a decade older than me, who fuss over my appearance. When I was a teen I wore solid black or gray from head to toe. My clothes were for a forty or fifty year old woman. Now that I am mature the same outfit looks immature. Others in my age group and I make adjustments to the old style though still revering many of the same principles that are basics of the old style.

Style and music will evolve. My parents felt they were different from available groups. I look at my Mom's pictures of her as a teen. She had pale skin, intense glare, black clothes and one earring. Slightly different, it reminds me of Goth. She was friends with bikers and innovators who respect "One Percenters." My Father had longer hair and resented any association to Hippies. He is an upstanding citizen who believes in upholding the laws and traditional family values. There might be more debate about the title the group, yet it is time grow up.

Quirky Book
Jung by Vivianne Crowley

Sunday, September 18, 2011

Goth Club Life

For everyone interested in Club Life, I have compiled a list maneuvers for consideration. Some call it scruples. Some call it morals. Some call it boundaries. Some call it streetwise. In any event, seeking notoriety and success might cause harm.

For as many people who rose to the top and live a normal or fantasy lifestyles the path is paved with those who lose at life. Every city and culture has basic rules for gaining popularity. This popularity is measured in free passes to parties, friends, relationships and stuff, yet basic rules apply to everyone.

- Do not take anything. Everyone is excited by free stuff. It is amazing when inspiring someone with a persona, outfit or friendliness. Sometimes people want to give gifts. It is a validation of accomplishment. It feels great and might cause jealousy or competition; however, gifts are achievement gained without threats or nagging.

Benefits and noticeable attractiveness causes jealousy. In desperation there are those who feel bitter and want to use threats to gain gifts; however, they will be asked to leave. Creating tension usually result in consequences. Work on persona and being friendly. Do not show weakness by begging for money in the parking lot.

- Listen to instinct. Gifts are wonderful; however, I listen to my instincts. Even when gifts are freely given, when feeling it is a ploy or bait, I won't take the gift. Yet, on occasion people wanted to give me special items, because they already felt as though I inspired them through reminding them of a better time or raising their spirits. These gifts are appreciated and treasured. I do not need the gift and never want to be in a position of desperation. Jobs, school any productive life is important to balance Club Life.

- Pay for admission and drinks with cash. I do not go anywhere without a minimal amount of cash for necessities. People might know your name and charge drinks to your tab as a joke. This was a difficult lesson when a tab for two over a short period of time was much larger than expected. Unable to identify the person or people in a crowded club, I let it go and paid the tab. In addition, keep drinking to a minimum, because carrying a large amount of cash is dangerous.

- Be a friend. Even when needing something, I always find a method to balance favors. When needing assistance from a friend, maintain the friendship. People get in trouble when admitting they need assistance or disrespecting people who are nice to them. This stigma decreases an ability to gain favor in the future and also attracts people who think they can be bought.

Club Life is insane with unique detriments, especially if gaining any amount of popularity even lesser amounts of popularity. There is a plethora of deserved and undeserved gossip. Frequently, this revolves around what other people want from you. Most of the time everyone wants to have fun and get invited to the party, while another sees a sea of innocence and vanity to be plundered for their own selfish desires.

- Think of yourself occasionally. I believe predators hide in large groups. Similar to gossip surrounding a minor having sex predators protect themselves by saying the child wanted it; they were molested by a parent, or they are as guilty as me so why should I suffer. Club Kids, Goths and several other groups have similar reputations. Realize when someone is expecting or taking too much time, money or reputation. While feeling empathetic and wanting to help everyone, take care of yourself too.

- Identify abusive behavior. What you did, what was said or anything reason is circumstantial. Their only goal is to have sex, find a sex worker, sell drugs, make money illegally; therefore, do not throw away security. They want to walk away without harm to themselves so it is in their interests to make people completely reliant on them.

Someone might offer security, popularity or a better life. In exchange leave existing friends, family, vocation and protection under the law to reap the reward. Promises to pay for everything might diminish self-reliance and potentially an inability to leave; therefore, they can make unreasonable demands. Disgrace is standard. Gifts might be a lure or bait into isolation. Fighting back verifies delinquency. The only real defense is to care about people and continually work on personal improvement.

Being able to avoid problems completely is the best option. Regardless of responsibility if something happens there is a matrix of divided interests and a lot of gossip that can place people into vicarious situations. This does not imply unpopularity is better. Isolation also makes a person easier prey. Signs of success, popularity, accomplishment might be the only methods of protection against deviants, so don't give it away.

Friday, September 4, 2009

Goth before Goth

The theocracy of Goth restarted in the 1960s. All rock comes from somewhere. The current generation of alternative music is traced to a similar source. Psychedelic music became the forerunner of popular music in the 1960s. Though the Birthday Party made the brand "Goth" stick, Goth itself went in different direction. People embracing the title and purposely developing a musical style and culture refer to as psychedelic music frequently.

It became popular to integrate Asian Music into songs after someone cited similarities in psychedelic music; however, musical inspiration extends to opera and classical that are often lurid and dramatic to an apex of hostility. Mainstream and popular culture wanted to lighten the mood and focus on pristine ideals in the 1900s. The premise of likability was preferred over substance. The Yardbirds released "Frankenstein" in the 1960s. It was experimental, psychedelic music with political prose associated to Mary Shelly's famous horror story.

The Yardbirds created a surge of inspiration. Syd Barrett is founding member of Pink Floyd. Listening to their early records, with Syd, a gruesome and playful aspect is apparent in "the Piper at the Gates of Dawn." Eric Clapton, a member of the Yardbirds, joined Jimmy Page to create Cream in 1967. They released several songs about magic and darker aspects of life. Jimmy Hendrix joined the band latter. He was a member of the Animals and is known for writing "Purple Haze." Rolling Stones created another popular hit with "Paint it Black" in 1966. Anyone could understand why the catchy title is acceptable to Goths.

Goths in participating in refining modern Goth are clearly influenced by psychedelic B Sides. Though the breakthrough brand was created and the prominence of off kilter and divisive lyrics are becoming accepted, we have a tendency to forget a primary intent of offering substance, moody and horrific premises in dance, metal, rock, industrial, and so-on.



In the 80s, though this style of music stems from a similar source it rapidly divided into several branches. In the late 90s, it was consolidated into one heading: Alternative. Most Goth music is often a hybrid of other prominent genres; therefore, Goth is a dismal Alternative Music. People still cling to sub-classifications. This is understandable. Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne are placed in the Rock Category. The music is dismal, classical, melancholy and morbid; however, it is similar to glam rock bands DIO, Cinderella and Queen. It seems appropriate to move all bands to the Goth Category.

Syd Barret's career was overshadowed by Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon;" Cream's "White Room," and "Black Magic Woman." These are catchy titles for Goths everywhere, though clearly influenced by the Beatles who experimented with psychedelic music after it became popular. This provoked people to continue striving to make a cultural breakthrough, influence people and gain media acknowledgments. The 80s toppled this tower. It is time to reevaluate Goth.

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Friday, May 22, 2009

Signature Goth Sound

Establishing what Gothic Music is would make a template for musicians, so music can be more expressive without crossing the line into another genre and free future generations to progress in developing new music.

There are two events involved in creating the Goth Movement; base work in creating a unique style and establishing a brand for associated music, clothes, aesthetic and so-on. While post-punk was taking over the International Scene, a new band, the Birthday Party made Goth a brand. Nick Cave is credited as, "Walker's epic dark pop." Originating in Australia; Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Tracy Pew, Phillip Calvert and Rowland S. Howard made a huge scene. A Details Magazine dubbed them, "an uncontrollable barrage of vitriol violence and malevolence" Nick Cave started another band in 1984 called the Bad Seeds, a notorious Post-Punk Band.

The Bad Seeds are comprised of Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Tracy Pew (bass, only during the Australian tour), Blixa Bargeld, Barry Adamson and Hugo Race. The missing members are: Phillip Calvert, Rowland S. Howard and Tracy Pew. Unfortunately, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds greatly over-shadowed other members so it is difficult citing who is responsible for propelling Goth into a musical movement.

There is a clear connection between the Birthday Party and similar Post-Punk bands who were declared, "Gothic." People try to identify a difference between Gothic and Post-Punk because Gothic emerged after Post-Punk. Apparently, the difference is the heightened level of antagonism and literary skills, yet a frequently misunderstood word, "Gothic," is associated to barbarianism; however, there is reason to believe it is a reference to Asians living in Eastern-Europe; therefore, Gothic could be define Blues with a Traditional Asian influence.

Gothic music is stifled by the older generation. Listening to the radio, all I hear is the music my parents listened to as teenagers. Techno was a breakthrough in music. Then Ministry, Duran Duran and others joined in to evolve into Synthesized Rock N' Roll.

People use Alternative Music for merchandising. Bands may want to continue the Gothic Tradition; however, it is open to interpretation. Now Ozzy is Goth too. Mislabeling kills people's careers. Evanescence never had a chance. They are Hard Rock. Reminiscent of Lita Ford, they were labeled Goth. No one Goth is stunned by their music and Rockers won't listen to a lame Goth Band.

Identifying music makes it possible for people to express themselves without crossing the line. Then if they have a different sound, it is still notably Gothic. It seems like after 1984, no one is Goth enough. They are posers, so I listened definitively Goth Bands in order to study the common thread making them unique.

The Cure and Bauhaus are undoubtedly Goth Bands. In the guitar and bass rhythms there is a reoccurring pattern. It has two down notes, followed by two high notes. This combination is followed lightly. Rearranged in several ways, tempos fade in and out. Patterns are sometimes missing; however, it is a charismatic part of the composition.



Soul, Jazz and Blues identified unique qualities to become identifiable. Music is allowed to grow, be diverse and graduate so innovation gains musical spotlight. Rock N' Roll might be here to stay; however, I am getting tired of listening to old music. The Techno Revolution almost took hold. Baby-Boomers reformed it back into their music. This has to stop.

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